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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 2:54:56 GMT 1
A potential problem in all of this is that it appears that some textures just got reused on multiple canyons, so the textures can't really be used to locate canyons other than a general location assuming the development team didn't just randomly choose the textures. One interesting texture is the one at the end of Lookout Point, which is similar to, but more complete than the texture to the west of Fortuna : |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 8:46:38 GMT 1
A potential problem in all of this is that it appears that some textures just got reused on multiple canyons, so the textures can't really be used to locate canyons other than a general location assuming the development team didn't just randomly choose the textures. One interesting texture is the one at the end of Lookout Point, which is similar to, but more complete than the texture to the west of Fortuna Ehh... another noob. These Goddamn textures are reused, because they represent GODDAMN PALMONT! About "only interesting texture", did you even watched MW's videos? Did you read about MC? Did you? Cuz i think, you didnt, Captain Obvious(extremely late one) It's Mystery City. And again about "reused, textures" this is palmont, and all of these can be used for locating for sure. What did you think? Locating by landscapes is best method with which came up and stop spreading bullshit like"reused textures......no locayting motherfucker" cuz you confuse other noobs. I hope you will understand what i just wrote (dont make LACooper repeat that after me). |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 9:48:17 GMT 1
Well, I think he means who says the location of the canyons matches the scenery of Palmont you see from the canyons.We can locate them but is the scenery placed correct?
If it is, forget what I said.
About the city we see from Lookout Point, I wonder if it is really the beta scenery for the earlier Palmont or just a scenery like most textures you see around in e.g. U, U2...that's something we can't really answer, its 50/50.
I ask because in the demo you drive on the old map, where Lookout Point is next to many other roads and you still see the same "Mystery City" like in the final version.But you don't see any other roads from Lookout Point (nor scenery) which you were supposed to see according to the beta map.
I could believe the beta map never existed in driveable stage, just as an artwork as it basically contain many roads and canyons which were on the final map...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 11:09:35 GMT 1
Well, I think he means who says the location of the canyons matches the scenery of Palmont you see from the canyons.We can locate them but is the scenery placed correct? If it is, forget what I said. About the city we see from Lookout Point, I wonder if it is really the beta scenery for the earlier Palmont or just a scenery like most textures you see around in e.g. U, U2...that's something we can't really answer, its 50/50. I ask because in the demo you drive on the old map, where Lookout Point is next to many other roads and you still see the same "Mystery City" like in the final version.But you don't see any other roads from Lookout Point (nor scenery) which you were supposed to see according to the beta map. I could believe the beta map never existed in driveable stage, just as an artwork as it basically contain many roads and canyons which were on the final map... they are, the only exception is Copper Ridge(Oldie like Lookout point, that's why it is a bit wrong (giant "Pan City texture, right next to Palmont and doubled Southern islands). About MC (beta Palmont existence), yes it never existed in my opinion aswell, even map design lool unfinished and messy. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 12:45:00 GMT 1
Well, I think he means who says the location of the canyons matches the scenery of Palmont you see from the canyons.We can locate them but is the scenery placed correct? If it is, forget what I said. About the city we see from Lookout Point, I wonder if it is really the beta scenery for the earlier Palmont or just a scenery like most textures you see around in e.g. U, U2...that's something we can't really answer, its 50/50. I ask because in the demo you drive on the old map, where Lookout Point is next to many other roads and you still see the same "Mystery City" like in the final version.But you don't see any other roads from Lookout Point (nor scenery) which you were supposed to see according to the beta map. I could believe the beta map never existed in driveable stage, just as an artwork as it basically contain many roads and canyons which were on the final map... they are, the only exception is Copper Ridge(Oldie like Lookout point, that's why it is a bit wrong (giant "Pan City texture, right next to Palmont and doubled Southern islands). About MC (beta Palmont existence), yes it never existed in my opinion aswell, even map design lool unfinished and messy. I think it was supposed to represent the earlier Palmont as a whole but then they made seperated scenery for each district with more details and the previous texture became a cityscape for just scenery and atmosphere...it might should make the Player think it is Palmont because Lookout Point is the entrance to Palmont and L probably shouldn't look being in the nowhere, since it's called lookout point they should have been something to see due to its name. Or it is totally just scenery and never should represent Palmont or Beta Palmont as said it probably never existed but on artwork (map) They might kept the earlier map in the demo gameplay because you only drove on Lookout Point and San Juan, which aren't different in the final and they were not a sign of other districts being close by even tho the demo map showed there should be. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 18:11:48 GMT 1
Well, I think he means who says the location of the canyons matches the scenery of Palmont you see from the canyons.We can locate them but is the scenery placed correct? An example of a reused texture that's doesn't belong where it can be seen occurs in NFS World. There's a distant texture that represents the area in central Gray Point where the North Bay Canning Company is, near the end of the team escape event Late Departure, as viewed from the perimeter of the central bay (water). In this case the texture is where it is supposed to be, but this same texture is also used on the south west edge of Point Camden, and two more times on the north east and north west edge of Palmont, where it doesn't belong. The reused copy on the south west edge of Point Camden resulted in several threads of players speculating if something was missing or going to be added to NFS World's map, mostly by players exploring out of bounds. Getting back to Carbon's canyon textures, I'm not sure how the team chose which textures to use for which canyons. Another issue is the orientation (north, east, south, west) of the canyons versus the compass and the textures you see seems to vary between the canyons and the main map. For example the view from the north end of Lookout Point is similar to the view looking west from Fortuna. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2014 19:02:29 GMT 1
It might be that NFS World is a put together of both worlds using better textures, but also 2D textures of island and other is replaced by 3D models in NFS World - however, it's probably not the best source to compare with the original games.
But I understand what you mean, when you're in San Juan and use the helicopter to overlook the area, you notice they reused the Panorama City texture all around San Juan, just without the green and red lights on the skycrappers, tho I think you can see the normal one too.
If I'm right, that city texture isn't the only one named Panorama City (someone posted all related texture files on a thread), but every 2d texture you can't identify with Palmont districts directly. - my thought, it is what it says, just panorama cities.
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