I can see many are upset at MW's decision. His decision however is probably better than the alternative... Leaving the site to slowly decay. I've seen it happen, and maybe I am watching my third, fourth time that a once strong active site fall into ashes.
You will move on, you will find a new place. Its just like an ending TV show. With this decision, you'll look back at it and remember fondly rather than watching flies spiral over the corpse of your once great community.
I still remember the time when MW said that he created something like this, it visited it 3 mins after the first vid got uploaded and at this time it was empty, about many months later I came back and created a account, The forum was like a bees nest, full of everyone working with some quitters dead at the bottom. at the start I was mostly reading other posts and stuff but then I started talking too. then I remember the thing when Broiler told that he is going to leave, everyone was worried that "OH NO WE'RE GONNA MISS U". Well with a reason. but You always knew that those who leave will always return. This is probably the most friendly forum I have seen. In some posts I have told you about Estonian Gaming Communities and I have always felt great when I have got here. It's like a house, a place where we all are and talk, There is a specific circle of people posting to specific places. and that made us close, Together. I have seen other things and stuff dying and I have never taken it personally because they most of the time never made 100% sense. this one here neither, but still. I don´t see a point in shutting it down because you got so much hate about it. I know MW that you don't like to be tagged but please MostWanted2011 listen to me.
In the 3rd class I was probably the most popular person in the school, for bad reasons. I had much repultation beating somebody up because they messed with me and I was always in the Director -s cabinet writing "Why I did this". I was out of my mind because I got Trolled about every corner I walked through at the 2nd class. I could´t just take it. after 6 years I can take it without any trouble because I got out of my "Worriness" or however to spell it. That's what we have here too. You got about 20 people who are loyal to you and your community. Those who play Forum Games and still think about the things we found or have to find. Those who feel bad because they haven´t been online for 2 days. You got a youtube Channel, actually many channels. THERE IS ALWAYS SOMEBODY WHO PRESSES UNLIKE, ALWAYS. So keep it the way it is, and cancel the shutdown, Please Please? I can post a funny cat picture if you need.
Theories is not about researching Need for Speed anymore. It's about everything BUT what it is meant to be.
And as an administrator and the owner of the site - I feel like i am responsible for everything everyone does on this site. And not just that it's a bloody mess, I can clearly state that most people (grown ups, not kids) who come here to be casual site members simply end up leaving because of the amount of stupidity and irrelevancy being thrown at them. I feel embarrassed to look at this now.
Other than that, Need for Speed Theories nearly ruined my life several times. It has a notorious history of being attacked, and hated for obvious reasons. And as again i feel fully responsible for everything going on the site when these happen, and believe me - you do not want to go through that.
NFS Theories is no place for plonkers. youtube.com/iamthemostwanted2011
I have finally made some order in the mess from my mind, enough to insert an unbiased point of view...
MW is overreacting to an extent, but there's no smoke without fire. You see, we are at fault for the fact that he's overreacting. Me because I almost turned NFST into gorillaism plus I copied The Basement from WG to add it here, @prepsi & @zv151 for trolling at times with terrible threads/posts, @kacpa2 for this over the top 'Saint Neil Eskuri High Temple Pages' thing (like seriously, what the fuck have you done to Calin?), and other non-staff members like @xtrafax9 for general derping. The cup took many drops like these till it spilt, resulting in MW's overreacting. Before MW himself or whoever else jumps in impulsively to defend me or the staff members I mentioned or maybe even defending themselves, please try to understand that we're not perfect humans only because of our important positions. There's no such thing, and at the end of the day, these positions basically just mean we have a big responsibility on our shoulders. Instead of doing the mistakes we did, we were supposed to give a good example of behaviour to our community. Because the masses of casual members are both vulnerable and manipulable, that's why. Understood?
Now, does that mean MW should shut down NFST permanently? Totally not, because again, he's overreacting more or less. What does it mean then? It means that some of us need to take a step back, literally or figuratively. @xtrafax9, @calin, etc. - you must act politely or face the consequences. I must stop trolling or at least fucking reduce it along with prepsi for example. Kacpa, you need to take it easier with the 'Saint Neil Eskuri High Temple Pages' thing and also take a break from pushing MW in an attempt to keep NFST alive. MW... you said that NFST has almost ruined your life, and you can't handle it or certain members from it anymore. You also told me in private that you're not going to join any other forum, not even as a non-staff member. I don't get why. However if it's true, you need to take a step back literally but without taking down NFST with you, even though it has changed negatively. Give it a chance to get fixed.
In a way everybody here is at fault for the current tense situation. Let's put our egos behind at least for the sake of innocent members of NFST like @raflp, @racerdudex, etc. None of us truly wants to take hasty decisions which we'll regret later! This is my first and last real try to make some sense out of the mess. Whatever MW does, I'll be a man and deal with it, yet I may not like it.
P.S. I didn't tag MW in any place during my wall of text as he requested before to get tagged only when NFST has security issues.
I totally agree with ye
gorillaism was weird, prepsi and his trolling x-(, kacpa and that neil eskuri shit (srsly why?) RebounZ..., calin..., oh my god malik back then, but also there are a LOT of innocent members which is sad, very sad
it's also very damn sad to see all this stupidity lately, some members kept or tried to keep this site somewhat serious about nfs and stuff, but at least we will stay in contact somehow :/
and we should like close down nfst for like 1/2 half a year or 1 and see what happenes...
i will post my dick pic 5 minutes before the end of nfst i'm glad that i found this site because i love theorizing games and music and this was the first site where it was the main interest, not just fanboying the game/band. it was fun discovering stuff with you guys (even tho it was mostly mw and felipe discovering somehing and i was like slow clap in the background)
And the reason i dont to type a wall of text in this thread cause i know someway mw might change his mind.
Might. Believe Is what makes difference. If every people who invented something just gave up they wont be notified till now. Just like you. I feel you are giving up on a site you created. This is on mah POV btw.
Brace yourself, wall of rant texts are coming for the next 30 days
Not from me because I've ran out of valid arguments.
This is my first and last real try to make some sense out of the mess. Whatever MW does, I'll be a man and deal with it, yet I may not like it.
I just feel sorry for you and the other innocent members as you guys are paying for the staff's actions with NFST's shutdown. If you're going to see more wall of texts from me on this matter, they'll be rants and/or repeated arguments.
OK, let's get this straight. MW's reasons for shutting down the forum: 1. It's no longer focused on theories. 2. He sees no scope of it repairing itself.
However, there's the fact that despite being the admin of the forum, he doesn't care about it anymore. If he cared, he would have taken corrective measures instead of lazily and irresponsibly hoping that it would repair itself with time.
He didn't take enough care of the forums, and crippled the powers of the admins as well. Now that the forum has lost it focus, instead of taking responsibility and trying to fix things, he decides to shutdown the forums as a knee-jerk reaction.
Here's what I believe should have done months ago:
1. Making a thread in the theory board should have been restricted. Only members with admin/mod/genius rank can make a thread freely in the board. Threads made by normal members will have to be approved by a mod before being visible.
2. There should be 4 sections: a. The rules & announcements section b. The theories section c. The social section(For crews, blacklist, meetups) d. The discussion section(NFS discussion, off-topic stuff, forum games, other games discussion)
This, IMHO, should fix the focus problem.
Now, about the lack of theories problem.
Theories, by nature, take time to form. In most cases, it takes many a stroke of genius & moment of revelation of many people for a theory to materialize.
Carbon was a huge exception in that it had so many mysteries packed into it. The same cannot be said for other NFS games. Man up and tell your subscribers the naked truth. Theories will come when they come.
Carbon might still have some surprises left, with @paulosorto trying to get the Gameinformers issue with a review of beta Carbon.
UG&UG2 research has seen some progress recently. @konigsseg is working on removing the barriers in UG. @379felipe uncovered more details about East Bayview in the PS2 demo.
And then there is @trypticon8 trying to find stuff in the PS2 demos of various NFS.
There have been other stuff as well, which may not seem to be of much significance now, but then, theories form when we manage to connect smaller stuff.
I am tagging you MostWanted2011, to bring to light your apathy towards this forum. The admin of a forum is supposed to be the core of the forum, actively engaging with the community, and taking care of the forum. Not popup from nowhere when "security issues" arise.
Remember, you are where you are because of the NFS:T community as a whole. Theories are the brainchild of the community, and not your personal genius.
Give us admins the powers required to fix the forum, if you can't be bothered to fix it yourself. In the future, theories might become rare, but the forum won't lose it's identity if the theories section is kept separate.
We are a community brought together by our love for NFS.
Here's one for the Need for Speed Theories community!
Last Edit: Nov 30, 2014 21:39:22 GMT 1 by laserled
thats the thing, I've always ignored bad things (on the internet anyway). like when skill cards that you have to put on single cars came around in NFS world, people kind of rioted, but I simply ignored it. but I'm not so sure that this is a thing that people like me can simply ignore. without this website, I'll have to find something new, and that will take forever. I don't know, maybe I should give up on racing games and go do some stereotypical gamer thing, like drink mt. dew or play CoD or something I don't normally do. this has happened to me before, in a NFS world crew. so I just don't know anymore.
Well if you have Advanced Warfare on PS3 I'll play cod with you
Offtopic: Hey I have Advanced Warfare on PS3 I'll add you my PSN ID is SHADOGE234
on topic : Now let's hear this remix of "Static" the song that plays in NFS World when you're not moving for a long time. the song makes me feel sad about the NFST shutdown