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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 22:34:00 GMT 1
Oh no  Now for me it looks like EA laziness So: -In most interviews with Dev we can read that Underground is pretty much incomplete project. They wanted Free Roam, They wanted Police, They wanted bigger city, They wanted..., They wanted. -Underground 2 has almost same physics, graphics have almost no improvement. Only things added are: *Free Roam (For one good coder around 1-2 months of work) *Magazines, sponsors (2-3 days of coding) *Closed Track (month of coding, textures copied from UG1) *Jumpy suspension and allot of tuning parts(Which are very simple to do, around 1-2 weeks of coding and texturing) Just by reading this topic I lost all my hype for theorizing. NFS is shit made for money. Every NFS was "another milestone" of EA programmers. - UG1 (First and last NFS on which they worked v-hard, but they couldn't do everything they wanted) - UG2 (They went by Hype on NFS, worked less, rested more. Textures= copy paste, simple coding. People will buy it anyway) - MW (OK. Its time to move our asses lets make whole new city, textures, green screen, POLICE!, but don't work too hard guys, we don't need to make every part of it perfect. PPL will buy it anyway) - C (OK. Lets make people think next game is going to be EPIC. In ads we want a huge map, lots of tuning possibilities, epic story, EPICness. But remember, we cant work too hard so lets only make half of it, leave some evidence of more stuff in code, so no one will get it. MONEY!) - Undercover (OH yeah! Second chance, lets make what we always wanted. Big Free Roam, modifications, Police. [When release comes]. Shit guys, again we worked not enough. AI is broken, bugs, not enough epicness in story, lets make PPL play it longer. GIVE THEM 1000 laps in Circuits!!) And now I get it why Black Box got down... its not only fault of devs. NFSUG1 and NFSC were rushed by EA so blackbox had only some time to work (MW was by the way big improvement : new game engine, new mechanics, simple but still enjoyable story (semi-hero-> zero-> hero), more cars and great graphics at that time. Dont be that sceptic. NFSC during development has several big things scrapped (first Palmont a.k.a Mystery City, drift mode on new, better more advanced rules not like shitty drift in UG1 &2) After all remember no one is perfect and Ea really was pain in ass of Devs same to players. Ea is big company and they always were turned towards fast production (every year new game) cuz this give them money often and in big amounts. When team has only a bit more time than one year to work on new title, they wont be effective all the time creating better and better and better games all the time. Look how much time Rockstar gave itself to create newest gta games (only gtaiii era gameswere that frequently released cuz it was ssame engine and they just worked on aspects of story and features + minor improvements to graphics and physics. However when it comes to new titles they worked over 4 years on GTAIV and now 5 for GTAV. Blackbox was rushed thats what happened. Dont blame them that much, blame ea cuz they made from them money making machine after 2005. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2013 23:04:21 GMT 1
THX Kacpa. So! Maybe now Black Box is still there(Or people from it) working on Underground 3 xD Btw. 40 posts - 0 offtop in about 24hours  Only usefull stuff. Also @kacpa2 check this out: (My work)  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 1:55:40 GMT 1
THX Kacpa. So! Maybe now Black Box is still there(Or people from it) working on Underground 3 xD Btw. 40 posts - 0 offtop in about 24hours Only usefull stuff. Also @kacpa2 check this out: (My work) As far as i know single people from Black Box work in Quicklime studios. (2 ppl i guess at the moment). Good job with the map. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 11:49:16 GMT 1
@kacpa2 But Quicklime studios is over There is now new studio working on NFS World and I haven't seen them anywhere else. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 15:34:48 GMT 1
@kacpa2 But Quicklime studios is over There is now new studio working on NFS World and I haven't seen them anywhere else. Their logo(quicklimes) still appears in Opening of NFS World |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2013 20:18:18 GMT 1
@kacpa2 But Quicklime studios is over There is now new studio working on NFS World and I haven't seen them anywhere else. Their logo(quicklimes) still appears in Opening of NFS World So what? Do you even read news about World? There is new studio, but they chose to learn the code and style of game creation. After that they wanted to ask the community what we want and they will try to make our wishes happen. In such fast change of producers change of logo isnt most important. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 9:27:09 GMT 1
So these guys should lead to Bayview?  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 12:42:22 GMT 1
So these guys should lead to Bayview? I dont remember, but somewhere on the internet someone mentioned where these are heading. Im 80% sure not to Bayview. Btw. If you go there in game there is only 1 unfinished passage of the road (Someone has to noclip it  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 13:08:24 GMT 1
So these guys should lead to Bayview? Nope. All people which think roads in NFS games which lead to other cities are wrong. Except for that infamous MW bridge. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 13:14:14 GMT 1
So these guys should lead to Bayview? Nope. All people which think roads in NFS games which lead to other cities are wrong. Except for that infamous MW bridge. But if I had to choose in here one road leading to bayview, I would choose these few small roads North that would lead to Coal Mine in UG2 |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 15:04:45 GMT 1
Nope. All people which think roads in NFS games which lead to other cities are wrong. Except for that infamous MW bridge. But if I had to choose in here one road leading to bayview, I would choose these few small roads North that would lead to Coal Mine in UG2 You mean Coal Harbour? And yeah if any of these would lead to Bayview it would go next to coastline not deeper to land. However it not true cuz OC is on East coast of US and Bayview is on West Coast (and know OC is mindfucking us cuz its Western Coast alike.). Why oc is on East? Cuz antagonist crew is called Eastsiders. But this is not 100% sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 15:31:30 GMT 1
But if I had to choose in here one road leading to bayview, I would choose these few small roads North that would lead to Coal Mine in UG2 You mean Coal Harbour? And yeah if any of these would lead to Bayview it would go next to coastline not deeper to land. However it not true cuz OC is on East coast of US and Bayview is on West Coast (and know OC is mindfucking us cuz its Western Coast alike.). Why oc is on East? Cuz antagonist crew is called Eastsiders. But this is not 100% sure. Well, the "east" could mean the east side of the city instead of the location... but not sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 15:44:57 GMT 1
You mean Coal Harbour? And yeah if any of these would lead to Bayview it would go next to coastline not deeper to land. However it not true cuz OC is on East coast of US and Bayview is on West Coast (and know OC is mindfucking us cuz its Western Coast alike.). Why oc is on East? Cuz antagonist crew is called Eastsiders. But this is not 100% sure. Well, the "east" could mean the east side of the city instead of the location... but not sure. 100% East. Water location sugests East Coast and Eastsiderz can mean also location of city and location of Crew(They function mostly on East side of city). But WTF Bayview is West, when on map of Bayview Water is on left (East)? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 17:19:47 GMT 1
@lostmybrainzzz Do you even recognize which direction is west and which east? Shortly(not accurate describsion) East-Right, West-Left. Bayview is on West Coast, but OC is confusing because it has coastline on North West.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 17:47:06 GMT 1
@lostmybrainzzz Do you even recognize which direction is west and which east? Shortly(not accurate describsion) East-Right, West-Left. Bayview is on West Coast, but OC is confusing because it has coastline on North West. Well, OC might be somewhere near Vancouver Island... but not sure... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 17:51:22 GMT 1
@lostmybrainzzz Do you even recognize which direction is west and which east? Shortly(not accurate describsion) East-Right, West-Left. Bayview is on West Coast, but OC is confusing because it has coastline on North West. Well, OC might be somewhere near Vancouver Island... but not sure... That's more legit. It should at northern West Coast. But then what about Eastsiders? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2013 18:24:16 GMT 1
Well, OC might be somewhere near Vancouver Island... but not sure... That's more legit. It should at northern West Coast. But then what about Eastsiders? Well, that might also mean the East side of the city... but again not sure... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 6:56:46 GMT 1
@lostmybrainzzz Do you even recognize which direction is west and which east? Shortly(not accurate describsion) East-Right, West-Left. Bayview is on West Coast, but OC is confusing because it has coastline on North West. The coastline is on north. The north for OC maps is along Top-Left and not Top. See this image from Prima Guides:  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2013 7:50:14 GMT 1
@lostmybrainzzz Do you even recognize which direction is west and which east? Shortly(not accurate describsion) East-Right, West-Left. Bayview is on West Coast, but OC is confusing because it has coastline on North West. The coastline is on north. The north for OC maps is along Top-Left and not Top. See this image from Prima Guides: Coast line is also to West. It's not only north. LostmyBRANz mistaken east with west.(just see his post). |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2013 18:41:57 GMT 1
WTF? I always did it like this:
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OMFG. How the hell I could do this wrong for 5-6 years and no one said that I'm wrong? WOW!
So. Sorry, but East'siderz may also mean:
1. They drive import cars(How bad it would sound. "Rightsiderz" xD), because of wheel placement.
1.5. We say East as China, Japan and this stuff, so this can also be about Import cars.
2. Its East side of "Unknown" country (Big water can also be a lake, like in Carbon. Lake is pretty huge.)
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