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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 22:59:14 GMT 1
240sx is very cheap car. It can be his teen times car. First car bought for him by his parents even. NO! NO! NO! Pro Street protagonist is Ryan Cooper, not our "blured face" guy. In Pro Street he only appears as a "Small blue car with CARBON lp." Which can explain where from he got his M3 GTR. I know it. -_- i'm talking about how Ryan got his sx. Jesus...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 23:23:12 GMT 1
But if Coopers first car was nissan 240sx then the whole Coopers history began in prostreet as me and @kacpa2 was talking above OMG! You still dont get it that Cooper is not the main protagonist? He is only in Pro Street and Undercover? how do you know? Please one proof and I will shut up
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 22:22:19 GMT 1
First: Point of making you as a "No face" character is to make you feel as its you. So, our main protagonist is YOU! And Ryan Cooper is Ryan Cooper. Second: If story of main protagonist continues from carbon to undercover, like in my story, then Ryan Cooper lands as a different person.
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Post by MostWanted2011 on Dec 3, 2013 22:25:06 GMT 1
Finally you guys make sense! :'D I'm so proud!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2013 22:56:18 GMT 1
Finally you guys make sense! :'D I'm so proud! I bet, that in 99% of what I and ZV have posted here is making sense xD Offtop: Btw. Great DnB:
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2013 23:21:04 GMT 1
But that makes no sense about cross in carbon. Just think, you are driving straight to Palmont. Cross rage quited the RPD first. That means that Cross was faster than the M3 GTR and entered the Palmont first. He became buddies with Darius and then catched M3 GTR. This is all fucked up. Because you like had to drive one week from Rockport to Palmont. But in NFSW it just takes a minute. I dont know i am drunk :]
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2013 0:01:57 GMT 1
But that makes no sense about cross in carbon. Just think, you are driving straight to Palmont. Cross rage quited the RPD first. That means that Cross was faster than the M3 GTR and entered the Palmont first. He became buddies with Darius and then catched M3 GTR. This is all fucked up. Because you like had to drive one week from Rockport to Palmont. But in NFSW it just takes a minute. I dont know i am drunk :] it's not sure that we head there straight. Most possible explanation is just going aroud few states to loose tension (by abiding the laws to not bring any more tension) Cross got info about Palmont as our "home". He gone there fast started bounty hunt. We arrive and unfortunetrly for the player Cross got us most likely by accident slightly before intro and followed as to LP and then started to ram the player. Its not 100% clearly shown in nfscplot so we have place for speculations for example as i wrote in post - how Cross got us just in canyon. (I think no one would know about arrival) In addition i think that player raced occassionaly during trip from Rockport to Palmont as Brian O'Conner in Turbo Charged Prelude (connecting short movie set between TF&TF and 2F&2F)(again R.I.P Paul Walker). So i assume that its quite legit for Cross be there earlier. He needed to bounty hunt around Palmont for few days, eventualy bringing attention of Darius by bountyhunting few of his crew members i guess.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 22:19:41 GMT 1
Sorry for bringing up this old thing
But here's my view on it.
U and U2 - Same Character MW and C - (New) Same Character Pro Street - New Character Undercover - New Character
1st, Anything that mentions a relation to a previous title or character is just an easter egg IMO it's just too obvious and random in process.
Underground and Underground 2 have the same character.
You're a dreamer and wanna climb up in the street racing scene, you beat the Eastsiderz and Eddie just reached the #1 spot.Someone sees a problem in you and takes you down.Some months later you fly to Bayview to get back to life.You take business there and take down Caleb, the guy who made you crash your car.You're the King of the underground and celebrate...END
# Most Wanted and Carbon have a new character.
You're in Palmont, you have no car and Darius gives you the keys for a supra in a race against three other guys.At the finish line cops take out the three cars with EMP weapons, more cops arrive.You're on your own, suddenly someone opens an alley you drive thru and blocks it with his car again.You getaway out of the city.
Weeks, Months, Years? later you arrive in Rockport with a new car and get it to take down the Blacklist 15, in a race you lose your car and want revenge, after you beat every rival you're told to escape and leave the city jumping over an old bridge.
Weeks, Months? later you find yourself in the canyons, a sign Palmont City - Flashbacks.Suddenly Cross, the former Sergeant of the RPD appears behind you and wants to take you down...revenge that he got suspended because of you.You figure out that he's well known in Palmont and patrolin in PC for awhile / I skip this.....
You get informed that things have changed, the city is divided in territories owned by four major crews, the bosses are the rivals from back then.
After you took over the city, Darius tells you one last thing and then leaves the city.
END
Pro Street is a new game with a new story new characters, telling the story of an former street racer who's trying the big deal in the pro racing scene...Im they just needed some background story for the newbie racer, also if the character was from before you had enough cash to afford better cars, in fact you owned new cars...also Ryan Cooper is too skinny, the character in MW/C was taller and had a more thletic appearance and wore more stylish clothes (cut scenes, busted scenes)
I also think the cop chat in Undercover is just an easter egg...nothing special, just like the CARBON license plate chat in Pro Street, an easter egg.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 22:26:22 GMT 1
UG - PS: same character. Not sure about Undercover.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 23:29:35 GMT 1
I doubt this big time.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2014 23:37:02 GMT 1
UG - PS: same character. Not sure about Undercover. Ryan Cooper is not protagonist from open era! As LACooper said there might be separation between player even in UG-NFSC period (however official wiki states that its one and the same and they remove every "no true info" so it may be proof for it that it is the same character). Lostmybrainz was missunderstanding me like retard and tried to prove me wrong with unrelated proofs.(i was speculating Cooper's past as separate character, but this retard kept thinking that i mean Ryan being a player -_-)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 10:33:54 GMT 1
UG - PS: same character. Not sure about Undercover. Ryan Cooper is not protagonist from open era! As LACooper said there might be separation between player even in UG-NFSC period (however official wiki states that its one and the same and they remove every "no true info" so it may be proof for it that it is the same character). Lostmybrainz was missunderstanding me like retard and tried to prove me wrong with unrelated proofs.(i was speculating Cooper's past as separate character, but this retard kept thinking that i mean Ryan being a player -_-) Which wiki do you mean? The nfs wikia page or wikipedia. However, the problem is there's no straight and clear fact that could tell the character from UG to Carbon is the same.And I wouldn't count on all articles, it says somewhere Ryan Cooper is the player from U to Undercover...they can only get as much as info as we can get, I even had big discussions about the MCO page why it was totally wrong, it took awhile until the admin realized that he was wrong and my edit were correct, god damn I played the game and he didn't...and I really can't get why the rules force you to write in british english, that rule has no sense to me, he delete changes until they were in BE and/or he changed words to BE... whatever. U and U2 show that their character is the same.So does MW and Carbon with their character, but U/U2 with MW/C connection is hard to tell... If the Carbon flashbacks show the time before Underground, why the player had no car if he escaped with a car from Palmont.You also seemed to have great racing experience in carbon but in U you were a total newcomer.In flashbacks scene that cop who opens the alley has a Chrysler which I believe was build since 2005. í ½t u
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 13:23:55 GMT 1
Ryan Cooper is not protagonist from open era! As LACooper said there might be separation between player even in UG-NFSC period (however official wiki states that its one and the same and they remove every "no true info" so it may be proof for it that it is the same character). Lostmybrainz was missunderstanding me like retard and tried to prove me wrong with unrelated proofs.(i was speculating Cooper's past as separate character, but this retard kept thinking that i mean Ryan being a player -_-) Which wiki do you mean? The nfs wikia page or wikipedia. However, the problem is there's no straight and clear fact that could tell the character from UG to Carbon is the same.And I wouldn't count on all articles, it says somewhere Ryan Cooper is the player from U to Undercover...they can only get as much as info as we can get, I even had big discussions about the MCO page why it was totally wrong, it took awhile until the admin realized that he was wrong and my edit were correct, god damn I played the game and he didn't...and I really can't get why the rules force you to write in british english, that rule has no sense to me, he delete changes until they were in BE and/or he changed words to BE... whatever. U and U2 show that their character is the same.So does MW and Carbon with their character, but U/U2 with MW/C connection is hard to tell... If the Carbon flashbacks show the time before Underground, why the player had no car if he escaped with a car from Palmont.You also seemed to have great racing experience in carbon but in U you were a total newcomer.In flashbacks scene that cop who opens the alley has a Chrysler which I believe was build since 2005. ���t u I meant NFS Wiki, LeMansRacer along with few faggs "keep information straight and true" our Theory added to Mystery City page ended up with removal of the page. Every edit got reverted, it may be just their fucktardacy or proof for official weak connection. However one of other proofs is that Nikki look a bit younger in the flashbacks aswell as Darius. Car's release dates ae not a big deal since it is simple marketing and commercials ingame. Also we have M3 GTR, which is obtainable with three ways: -ordering BMW to create one for us as special order for few millionz of € or -steal one from BMW museum or -win it us ultimate prize In URL, unobtainable on screen in UG2. However i need to agree with you cuz these proofs are not enough to keep this version up (only way that this is true are big plot holes left by bb which cause "unneeded" confusion, but it just cant be true).
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 13:38:33 GMT 1
Yaaa, I filled the Underground wiki with some info and photos of the concept arts for the districts years ago...he deleted these a month ago saying they are not NFS related LOL then I look at how much crap there's written on some pages I really wonder...he even wants sources on the most obvious things...like century square = times square he wanted a photo of it...
agree on the BMW, that one definitely was a promotion thing or alike as this car is not available for purchase in its form.
But in Carbon, could be just random or the release date could be important...hard to tell how much sense the directors used lol
Yeah, the player was definitely gone for awhile, months or years...whatever the time was, it doesn't automatically give the keys that he been in U and U2...he could just been gone for a long time somewhere, just like its sure he wasn't heading straight to Palmont as Cross was there doing his bountyhunter biz already, has dreadlocks etc...in MW he had a very short afro, means there must be couple of months (f not even a year+) between Rockport escape and palmont arriving...I know a friend of mine had a dread locks (like sean paul or basically how you get it done when you gone on vacation or a barber who does that) he had to let his hair grow awhile, my sister and couple of girls from our clique also had that couple of times, it was a trend years back.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 15:49:48 GMT 1
Yaaa, I filled the Underground wiki with some info and photos of the concept arts for the districts years ago...he deleted these a month ago saying they are not NFS related LOL then I look at how much crap there's written on some pages I really wonder...he even wants sources on the most obvious things...like century square = times square he wanted a photo of it... agree on the BMW, that one definitely was a promotion thing or alike as this car is not available for purchase in its form. But in Carbon, could be just random or the release date could be important...hard to tell how much sense the directors used lol Yeah, the player was definitely gone for awhile, months or years...whatever the time was, it doesn't automatically give the keys that he been in U and U2...he could just been gone for a long time somewhere, just like its sure he wasn't heading straight to Palmont as Cross was there doing his bountyhunter biz already, has dreadlocks etc...in MW he had a very short afro, means there must be couple of months (f not even a year+) between Rockport escape and palmont arriving...I know a friend of mine had a dread locks (like sean paul or basically how you get it done when you gone on vacation or a barber who does that) he had to let his hair grow awhile, my sister and couple of girls from our clique also had that couple of times, it was a trend years back. Off-topic: You know what? You're one of the few here who is such great person to discuss with. Also you are the second one here to disproof bad builded theories so often (like Rachel, Samantha thread of blamblam). You ninja'd me to disprove it. On-top(with few elements of off topic, lol): LeMansRacer isjust ignorant closed minded degenerate. We dont need to bother with him, he remove everything. Only his ideas for drift mode makes sense otherwise he is just annoying, closed minded person. (I talked to him on wikia).(end of off-topic "elements") Lets get back to topic. Yeah i pointed it out numberous times, but still many newcomers, think that player goes to Palmont in matter of one day. As another powerful proof we can take Most Wanted's intro. All event are basicly stretched to a week(since our arival to Rockport to race with Razor), so day time in MW as proof for it being one day is one big bullshit. We have numberous proof pointed by me and you that gaps between NFSC-MW-NFSC are waaaay longer than 'single days'. Let's take closer look at MW's intro, we arrive "6 days" prior duel, which means we race with Razor at seventh day of us being in Rockport. Several races take time trough this week. It means that action of whole game (beating whole Blacklist) must take also longer time(few weeks?). About NFS UG series with MW/NFSC connection, there is another obvious proof. Rog greets us mentioning our "crawling out of underground" which can imply that he knew about us in Bayview (maybe he lived there and was a racer) and he mention racing at night. However it might be just simple easter egg for fans.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 16:10:12 GMT 1
Thanks.
OffT: Yeah, that's why I'm pretty much done their, whatever I write, it's not right...cause when I add sources he's like not allowed to link to their pages and then I don't do he's like give me sources (and deletes the page edits).
Yeah, it also takes like 2-3 days to cross the whole country with a car and the player definitely needed sleep and breaks so the one day theory is not even realistic.
I think in the intro it even says 3 months ago (or 3 weeks ago??) arriving in Rockport, so basically until you raced against #15 (Razor) it was a long way to the racing scene.
About the phrase by Rog
I see two possibilities their:
1. It is related to Underground e.g. Easter Egg 2. The phrase sounds to me like he basically says look what's coming out of nowhere, there are many phrases to this:
You're coming out of the dark (nowhere, diferent place, unkown kid) to the spotlight (their racing scene) showing up to take on the racing scene.Like, if there's a new kid at school who acts like being the new king and actual kings are like look at that punk etc
I think it's easy to get my point, rog might just takes a prank on you and at the same time EA wrote to relate to Underground as at least an easter egg.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 17:01:28 GMT 1
Thanks. OffT: Yeah, that's why I'm pretty much done their, whatever I write, it's not right...cause when I add sources he's like not allowed to link to their pages and then I don't do he's like give me sources (and deletes the page edits). Yeah, it also takes like 2-3 days to cross the whole country with a car and the player definitely needed sleep and breaks so the one day theory is not even realistic. I think in the intro it even says 3 months ago (or 3 weeks ago??) arriving in Rockport, so basically until you raced against #15 (Razor) it was a long way to the racing scene. About the phrase by Rog I see two possibilities their: 1. It is related to Underground e.g. Easter Egg 2. The phrase sounds to me like he basically says look what's coming out of nowhere, there are many phrases to this: You're coming out of the dark (nowhere, diferent place, unkown kid) to the spotlight (their racing scene) showing up to take on the racing scene.Like, if there's a new kid at school who acts like being the new king and actual kings are like look at that punk etc I think it's easy to get my point, rog might just takes a prank on you and at the same time EA wrote to relate to Underground as at least an easter egg No its just "six days ago..." Here is the intro (2:23):
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 18:12:59 GMT 1
Maybe Ryan was driving the 370z in the beginning of UnderCover?
Sorry to necropost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 19:30:52 GMT 1
Maybe Ryan was driving the 370z in the beginning of UnderCover? Sorry to necropost. its unknown. Broiler and MW made a video about it. Its just so unsure, that we cant even assume nothing. Its so random. But it could be Ryan, could be random ricer, could be retired UG protagonist, player from MW/NFSC(also retired). It may be anyone. It just lacks info and by that any proof aswell. Ryan's case was closed when it comes to PS and earlier open era nfs games, but undercover isnt really investigated. Maybe if we could 'penetrate' the "mission" coding files, (brief describtions for events, entities names(car's livery, "scene name", characters etc.) We could dig out something, but we can't (yet?).
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Post by MostWanted2011 on Nov 5, 2014 22:38:51 GMT 1
funny thing is i'm a forza fan now
IRREVELANCY ALERT
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