Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 12:04:19 GMT 1
The street version officially costs 250000$.
Then after undergrounds, protagonist could buy it and modify it to a race car.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 12:41:42 GMT 1
It's not proven that the player goes to U and U2 after leaving Palmont City, the U2 has a laid back ending which doesn't give hints for something on and player left in 2001 as an experienced driver, in OC (played in 2003) he had nothing and was a total dreamer...so Im sure U and U2 have their own universe, while MW and Carbon also have their own universe in terms of story and characters.
Yeah, in MW you had millions at the end, but I don't think you drove around with a bag of money all the time, and after the last race you had no time to pick up cash you had to leave the city quickly, Cross also knew all your hideouts, Mia says.
I also doubt that the racer had a bank account, at least not one he used and transfered money around - cops could track his location and call local departements etc.
If at all, the player could only have a little amount of money.
Why would the player build a race car including interior, removing all seats, add fire extinguisher, add air pipes, roll cage etc...? It's a 1:1 copy of the race cars, just the paint job has differences.
I read somewhere that the M3 GTR Street version was released 2006 or 2007...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 13:22:06 GMT 1
It's not proven that the player goes to U and U2 after leaving Palmont City, the U2 has a laid back ending which doesn't give hints for something on and player left in 2001 as an experienced driver, in OC (played in 2003) he had nothing and was a total dreamer...so Im sure U and U2 have their own universe, while MW and Carbon also have their own universe in terms of story and characters. Yeah, in MW you had millions at the end, but I don't think you drove around with a bag of money all the time, and after the last race you had no time to pick up cash you had to leave the city quickly, Cross also knew all your hideouts, Mia says. I also doubt that the racer had a bank account, at least not one he used and transfered money around - cops could track his location and call local departements etc. If at all, the player could only have a little amount of money. Why would the player build a race car including interior, removing all seats, add fire extinguisher, add air pipes, roll cage etc...? It's a 1:1 copy of the race cars, just the paint job has differences. I read somewhere that the M3 GTR Street version was released 2006 or 2007... Street version shares only engine, not aty part else than that. Gearbox or any other part of GTR race spec is basicly impossible to obtain. Also private teams never had race spec, they just got the engines(1000 engines were made, along with 10 Street goin GTRs) |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 18:45:02 GMT 1
Only 10 of the street going BMW M3 E46 GTRs were made. BMW stopped racing the GTR in GT class in 2002. Private teams were able to buy complete race versions of the BMW M3 E46 GTR, in addition to buying the engines and converting 6 cylinder BMW M3 E46.
wiki e46 special models
In general, once a racing season is over and a race car is updated, replaced, or retired, private teams can buy the older race cars. Sometimes the current race car is sold to private teams or "customers". Other example of private teams buying race cars including the Aston Martin DBR9 and the Corvette C6.R (note these are 2005 to 2013 cars). In general, the DBR9's were a bit faster than the C6.R's but the C6.R's broke down less often at Lemans (the one in France) so won more races during the years both cars competed in GT1.
wiki Aston Martin DBR9
wiki Corvette C6.R
Note that the BMW E46 M3 GTR's competed in the lowest class, GT, during the 2001 American Lemans Series seasonl. The Corvette C5.R competed in the higher GTS class. The Audi R8 race cars competed in the highest class, LMP900. Wiki link that includes the results.
wiki 2001 ALMS
Note that the Audi R8 race car that won the LMP 900 class is not to be confused with the street car that Audi also named R8. I'm not sure why they reused the R8 name.
wiki Audi R8 race car
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 18:56:09 GMT 1
I didn't say Street version is a 1:1 copy, I meant the race GTR is the 1:1 Cop of the ALMS race car.
Besides, I think Body Kit, Spoiler etc can be all obtained or have to be custom made by some company which makes body kits.
I read the tech data is nearly the same as of the race version, except the engine has lowered BHP
About specific performance parts, they might be harder to get, but I think nothing's impossible these days...there are always companies that build similar, maybe not the same but similar parts, besides I'm sure gettin a sick for muscle car parts will blow the race kit...so yeah no need of tryin to get the BMW race parts.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 19:18:50 GMT 1
I read the BMW M3 GTR Street was only built once cause ALMS rules required that every race car needs a street model, so they built one with the V8 to be able to race. I mention this in my previous post. Those lines that start with "wiki ..." are links to wiki articles. The BMW competed with the Porche GT3 and other cars in ALMS GT class, which is about the same as Europe Lemans GT3 class. Swapping the engine wasn't in the "spirit" of GT class, so in 2001, ALMS changed the rules and BMW made 10 street GTR's. In 2002 the rules changed to 100 cars, and BMW quit racing in the ALMS series. The Corvette C5.R was in the next higher class, GTS, about the same as Europe Lemans GT1 class. It would have been a faster car (more power, less weight), than the BMW GTR, but EA probably wanted an exotic car rather than something that looked like a souped up Corvette, even though the Corvette C5.R was a faster and better handling car in real life. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 19:45:05 GMT 1
Yeah, I deleted that post about only one street version.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2014 20:53:28 GMT 1
Who cares about the m3? The devs just liked it and decided to use it instead of whatever they had planned at the time of underground 2 . What we don't know is what the player was supposed to drive at the end of u2.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 1:47:47 GMT 1
What we don't know is what the player was supposed to drive at the end of u2. In U2, for all the grip type events, circuit, sprint, street x (street cross), url (underground racing league), the Toyota Corolla, a starter car, is the fastest, in a class by itself. The next fastest is the Miata MX5. The next step slower than the MX5 includes several cars with similar performance. For drag racing, the 240SX is fastest closely followed by an almost tie between RX7 and RX8. For drift, even though front wheel drive cars are not allow in real drift events, the VW Golf GTI gets the most points. In U1, the RX7 is the overall fastest car, even though the Skyline has bigger performance bars. In U2, the player can have up to 5 cars in career garage, plus a lot of cash. So assuming that this occurs before Most Wanted, the player could have sold those cars, and bought a retired BMW M3 E46 GTR race car from some private team, or the player could have bought a regular BMW E46 GTR and replaced the power / drive train with the V8 engine. For American cars, it's possible to purchase "crate" motors used for road racing or drag racing, as well as a variety of transmissions, including racing transmission, perhaps with no lift sequential shifters like XTRAC. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 18:27:50 GMT 1
Also,the player was Ryan Cooper from Pro Street on Undercover
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2014 18:40:52 GMT 1
Also,the player was Ryan Cooper from Pro Street on Undercover No, he wasn't... Ryan Cooper only exiss in Pro Street, iun Undercover the player is a long time FBI agent.However, there's an cop chatter mentioning Ryan Cooper, but this is a total easter egg by developers. About U and U2, they have no story relation nor character relation to Most Wanted and Carbon, it's thru, why still bringing it up everytime...I feel like writing the same thing a thousand times. About the BMW, I bet the devs just picked the car, they probably don't have an answer for this on their own, they probably wanted the player to have a unique car which also would make sense to rise revenge to earn it back.We can only guess what kind of possibilities are legit, however they aren't representive for what the player really did or basically what the devs thought when they choose the cars. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 8:56:16 GMT 1
Also,the player was Ryan Cooper from Pro Street on Undercover No, he wasn't... Ryan Cooper only exiss in Pro Street, iun Undercover the player is a long time FBI agent.However, there's an cop chatter mentioning Ryan Cooper, but this is a total easter egg by developers. About U and U2, they have no story relation nor character relation to Most Wanted and Carbon, it's thru, why still bringing it up everytime...I feel like writing the same thing a thousand times. About the BMW, I bet the devs just picked the car, they probably don't have an answer for this on their own, they probably wanted the player to have a unique car which also would make sense to rise revenge to earn it back.We can only guess what kind of possibilities are legit, however they aren't representive for what the player really did or basically what the devs thought when they choose the cars. There was a video by MW. What is in the intro actually. Ryan Cooper came back to street racing. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 9:21:05 GMT 1
But Ryan Cooper is NOT the character from any NFS title except in Pro Street.
Yes, Ryan Cooper is said to be a former street racer who went to real racing on tracks.But this doesn't mean that everything has to relate to other NFS titles.It's just a short info about his bio.
Besides its no secret, in the manual it says that you're thinkin to be the street racer ace.
In Undercover a cop chatter mentions Ryan Cooper to be busted, woooooow...a speech file...this is just an easter egg by the devs, but Ryan Cooper doesn't exist in Undercover.And the player is long time FBI agent, you're not a street racer...
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 14:14:05 GMT 1
I just ment the intro.
Not sayin' the protagonist is RC
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2014 15:07:02 GMT 1
Oh you mean the chase in the Undercover intro... While I doubt this has to do with Ryan Cooper, there's neither a yes or no to is tho. But, I re-watched the whole beginning of Undercover due to other things, I caught up that after the chase, when the player comes to the office, Chase says "you've had an quite impressive run" after the player makes a noise. Now, it's hard to say if she means Lt. Keller or the undercover agent we play - it could be his arrival in purpose to make the gangs aware a new 'street racer' is in town, otherwise if he would come up from nowhere they might think he's a cop cause he just appears - cause the undercover act sets that neither cops nor racers are your friends, the cops don't know that you're an cop etc. About the 370z switch to the Nissan 240SX (  ), it's nothing special, if the 370z is the agent private undercover unit, in operations the agents always get different cars given by the federal departments with fake identity etc. There are three answers to this. #1 A random chase to introduce the game and THE 370z, which was world's first appearance and exclusive in this game. #2 The arrival of the player #3 Ryan Cooper entering the city, as an easter egg. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2014 5:56:48 GMT 1
But Ryan Cooper is NOT the character from any NFS title except in Pro Street. Yes, Ryan Cooper is said to be a former street racer who went to real racing on tracks.But this doesn't mean that everything has to relate to other NFS titles.It's just a short info about his bio. Besides its no secret, in the manual it says that you're thinkin to be the street racer ace. In Undercover a cop chatter mentions Ryan Cooper to be busted, woooooow...a speech file...this is just an easter egg by the devs, but Ryan Cooper doesn't exist in Undercover.And the player is long time FBI agent, you're not a street racer... MW HAD A VIDEO ON-oh you're right |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 17:41:33 GMT 1
About the 370z switch to the Nissan 240SX ( ), it's nothing special, if the 370z is the agent private undercover unit, in operations the agents always get different cars given by the federal departments with fake identity etc. Although the default starter car is the 240SX, if you update Undercover to version1.1.1.18, and do all of the challenge series first, then the three challenge series cars are unlocked and they can be used from the start of career mode. These cars are the Battle Machine RX7, Speed Machine 911 GT2, Dominator Corvette Z06, all of them fast tier 1 cars. Using them eliminates the normal career path of starting with a tier 4 car and working up to a tier 1 car. When Chase mentions impressive run as a wheel man during the intro, she glances at the player, so you could assume it's a reference to the player, since career mode uses the term wheel man for driver level. It seems that Lt Keller had the player running undercover as a wheelman just to infiltrate the street racing gangs, and Chase states the FBI is taking over the operation in order to track down a smuggling ring. 370Z clip that wasn't included as part of the game: |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 21:52:34 GMT 1
She flips around from talkin to Keller and the player...however, I don't think Keller and the player know each other, cause Keller doesn't trust the player until the very end...he thought the player was the bad guy until he found out the player isn't - during the chase after Chase Linh.
|
|
), it's nothing special, if the 370z is the agent private undercover unit, in operations the agents always get different cars given by the federal departments with fake identity etc.